Showing posts with label city inspections. Show all posts
Showing posts with label city inspections. Show all posts

Tuesday, June 14, 2011

Why municipal inspectors wear blinders

I’ve taken many building code classes that were taught by the Building Official for the City of New Hope, Roger Axel.  He’s a fantastic teacher.  In his classes, I remember him repeatedly telling us to take off the blinders; what he meant by this was to not miss the forest for the trees.  Sure, the deck ledgerboard has lag screws every six inches… but if the house was built with floor trusses, what are those lag screws going in to? The wall sheathing? Look at the big picture, keep an open mind, don’t make assumptions, question everything.
Deck Lag Screw In To Nothing
Despite this sage advice, municipal inspectors often have to wear blinders.  This blog post isn’t about deck construction.  This post is about why municipal inspectors have to wear blinders.
Here’s a common scenario: I inspect a home for a buyer, and I come up with a list of electrical defects that are potential fire hazards.  The buyer asks the seller to fix the stuff.  Two days later the seller calls me, and she’s not happy.
Seller: “Hello Mr. Saltzman, you told my buyer a lot of bad information about my electric service.  I just had the Minnesota State Electrical Inspector out at my house last year, and they said everything was fine.”
Me: “Why did you have the state inspector at your house?”
Seller:  ”I had my basement finished off, and they approved all the work.  They wouldn’t have signed off on it if there were problems!”
Ah, but that’s not true.  When a permit gets pulled for work being done at a property, the permit fee covers the cost of the inspections to make sure the work being done is correct.  Again, the work being done… not all the work that was ever done at the house.  A $50 electrical permit for some wiring in the basement doesn’t cover the inspection of the entire electric service at the house.  The electrical inspector is being paid to look at the work that’s being done, and that’s it.  If there is a glaring electrical defect that has nothing to do with the work being done, will the electrical inspector require repair?  It depends.
On one hand, the electrical inspector may not have the right to require repair.  If the municipal inspector is being hired to inspect the work that’s being done, they have an obligation to the homeowner to approve the work if it’s done properly, regardless of whatever else is going on at the house.  If an owner is replacing an electric panel, should the municipal inspector go through the entire house to make sure all the lights are wired properly, all the outlets grounded, and GFCI outlets installed to today’s current code?  Probably not.
On the other hand, does the inspector have a moral obligation to report the other defects they see?  Maybe, but these defects shouldn’t have any effect on the permit approval process.  If a municipal inspections department begins requiring repair of defects that aren’t directly related to the work being done, what are homeowners and contractors going to start doing?  They might decide that it’s too much of a hassle to pull permits, because some ‘a-hole inspector’ is going to start poking around for other problems as soon as he or she sets foot in the house.
Municipal inspectors need to have a delicate balance of what they look at and enforce; if they miss defects, they get labeled incompetent or lazy.  If they start requiring more repairs than what they’re hired to look at, people think they’re being jerks, and people stop pulling permits.  To a certain degree, municipal inspectors have to wear blinders.  I don’t envy the job of the municipal inspector.
If a municipal inspector signs off on a permit, they’re signing off on the work that’s being done; not the entire house.
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Wednesday, May 19, 2010

Who Inspected Your Roof?

Last week I mentioned that municipal inspectors will sometimes miss important details on permit inspections, partially because they just don't have the time to go over every little detail on a home the way that a private inspector does.  That reminded me of another aspect of municipal inspections in the Twin Cities that most people don't know about:

Municipal inspectors typically don't walk on roofs to inspect them.

That's right.  When municipal inspectors in the Twin Cities come out to inspect roofs, they will rarely set foot on the roof, or even lean a ladder up against the roof.  The rules vary between cities - some prohibit their inspectors from walking roofs, while others actually provide ladders for their inspectors.

So why don't municipal inspectors walk on roofs?  Because they don't have to.  It's documented in the Minnesota Administrative Rules for Inspections (1300.0210, Subp. 4.):

"The person requesting an inspection required by the code shall provide access to and means for inspection of the work."


This means that if you expect your municipal inspector to walk on your roof, or even use a ladder to inspect it, you better have a ladder leaning up against your roof when they show up.  They probably won't be bringing their own ladder.  If you DO have a ladder... they still might not.

Home Inspector on Snowy RoofRoofing contractors all tell me the same thing; municipal roof inspections are anything but thorough.  One roofer told me that city inspectors barely get out of their vehicles.  I have a high degree of respect for municipal inspectors and I had a hard time believing my roofer friends.  To find out for myself, I sent out emails to twenty of the largest municipalities in Minnesota, asking if their building inspectors will walk roofs.  I wrote:

"If a municipal inspector is coming out to inspect a permit for a residential roof replacement, will they walk on the roof to inspect it if a ladder is provided?  The roof has a pitch of 4:12, and is free of snow, ice, water, debris, etc."

FYI - A 4:12 roof is a very low-sloped roof (see photo above).

Here are the responses I received:
  • No response - 4
  • No. Inspectors are not allow to walk on sloped roofs, period - 4
  • Maybe? Vague answers to my direct question - 4
  • Yes. As long as all of the requirements listed above are met - 7
  • Yes, we rock. Department policy requires inspectors to walk on roofs with a slope of 6:12 or less, and the inspector's vehicles are equipped with ladders for doing so - 1 (Saint Louis Park).
Go Saint Louis Park.  Their municipal inspections department continues to impress me.
Here are two more tips I picked up from the email responses that I received:
  • Some municipalities allow / require digital photos of the roof underlayment in lieu of an initial inspection.  The City of Blaine (among others) has a document detailing how to send in digital photos to the building inspections department.  Click here to see it - scroll to the bottom of the document.
  • None of the municipalities will approve permits when the roofs are covered with snow.  Homeowners are supposed to call for inspections in the spring, after the snow has melted.  Municipalities end up with "hundreds and hundreds and hundreds" of roofing permits that never get closed out.
If you have your roof replaced, make sure someone leaves a ladder for the inspector.  At least this way you'll have a chance of someone getting on your roof to inspect it.


Reuben Saltzman, Structure Tech Home Inspections - Email - Twin Cities Home Inspector
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